78 procent van de Nederlanders denkt ten onrechte dat Obama tegen de doodstraf is, en 62 procent denkt dat hij voor het homohuwelijk is. Ook denkt 56 procent van de ondervraagden dat Obama tegen particulier wapenbezit is. Bovendien wisten de meeste ondervraagden niet dat Obama de invasie in Irak steunde.In werkelijkheid blijkt Obama dus een stuk conservatiever dan de Nederlanders over het algemeen denken.
Gelukkig wisten de meeste mensen wel dat Obama de belastingen voor de hogere inkomens weer wil verhogen, dat hij het Amerikaanse leger terug wil trekken uit Irak en dat hij de gezondheidszorg wil verbeteren. Dat mag ook wel, want dit zijn onderwerpen die uitgebreid aan bod kwamen tijdens de campagnes.
Ik vind het schrikbarend dat mensen zo weinig weten van de standpunten, maar toch hun steun betuigen aan een kandidaat. Blijkbaar oordelen veel mensen op uitstraling, die Obama zeker heeft. Maar ik ben blij dat de ondervraagden niet mogen stemmen in de VS, want als je zonder kennis van zaken op iemand stemt is dat een slechte zaak. Ik hoop dan ook dat de mensen in de VS wél weten op wie ze stemmen.
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Je hebt helemaal gelijk. Ik had het wel het gevoel dat je via het nederlandse nieuws meer informatie kreeg over Obama dan over McCain, in ieder geval: spannend dinsdag!
Hoe is dat in "the UK"? Want daar is men wat conservatiever dan in Nederland... Is het zo dat McCain daar meer aandacht krijgt dan in Nederland? En wat is de algemene opvatting daar, wie steunt men?
very interesting piece
all right, those things you said are true. But he did work together with the illinois state governor to ban the death penalty after it turned out lethal injections we're against the constitution, because they hurt like hell times thousand. He may not be for gay marriage as such, but that is normal, if you force the issue now, it will backfire. There is constant tracking data on this, and it will come. Until that time he' can only offer them civil unions. Which is the same as marriage but with a different name. By the way, france doesn't have gay marriage either, so it's not that conservative. He's pro gun ownership, but you know what, i don't mind, so was bill clinton. He's trying to win an election, and in america, a democracy like no other, you do not simply win elections by leading the people, but by listening to them. You can start leading once you have your derriere in that nice comfy chair behind the english desk in the oval office. Also he's going to win, so that says something about his abilities. And again nice piece
But the article is actually about what the Dutch people think Obama wants..
And they think he is quite progressive, but now he turns out to be quite conservative. That's not in general, but from the point of view of the Dutch...
Thanks for the reactions!
True, but that's all right. We Europeans pride ourselves on making up the stereotype of the uninformed american, who couldn't find america on the map if it had the american flag printed on it's territory. Sadly we are not that much better, as a lot, as a kind. We Europeans label just as easily and just as loosely as the americans. And while our knowledge of geography may be better. We the two brothers or sisters who share the western hemisphere, do not understand each others ways. Or at least not fully.
Plus it sells. I mean it's the news business, bush=conservative=bad, obama=good=progressive. And also the european press takes the talking points easily, like sweet candy. And one of the early talking points was that obama was one of the most liberal senate members. Now this doesn't say anything, because those lists are statistical breakdowns used for fund raising and open policy centers as a reference. However once a few reporters read it, they thought it would make for a nice story.
Ook, hebben wij in europa onze investigative journalism desks zodanig ingekrimpt, dat het een lachertje is, en thanks for your reaction kind sir
And now it's up to us to stop stereotyping...
And it's up to me and other journalist not to copy all the pieces and opinions from others..
And I totally agree with the statement that we must invest in investigative journalism. But you have to ask yourself a few questions. Is that what the people want to read? And is there enough money available to invest in this?
there always is enough money to invest in investigative journalism. You just have to pitch it right, have the right kind of people working for you to make it happen. Do not be mistaken. There is nothing systematically wrong with our world. It just so happens that no one has matched a good business plan with a good team of capable people to do this. But eventually it will happen. And if it doesn't, we always have google. :D
That's right, but you did not answer the question about the readers.. and that's exactly where the income comes from. If that's lost, you automatically don't have money to pay your investigative journalists...
goed stuk hoor! je hebt helemaal gelijk. het word spannend morgen nacht. Obama of McCain... we zien wel ;)
yeah. Although readers aren't that important in certain business models. America has a lively culture of high minded investigative journalism. And they do not make one bit of money from their readers. Well they make some money, but that's only because the price of paper and ink has skyrocketed these last few centuries.
They make their money being a brand, being truly reliable. So much so that they don't have to put ' reliable ' in their commercials, unlike Fox news or CNN. They have very few readers, but their readers are what i would call ' the special few' which means that they fall out of the normal demographic. And the advertisement price to reach these readers is high enough to sustain a good deal of investigative journalism. Also the politicians know that ' the special few' read these sources, and thus they pay for their transportation etc, to make sure they are on the good side of these investigative journalists, and inderectly ' these special few'... in DC, their unofficial name is the gang of 500
True.. but I think this is simply not possible in a small country like the Netherlands.
If only a few people in the US read these articles, then so do the Dutch, i think. And if you think about 500 people reading the articles of at least 500.000 people living in DC, that's only 0,1 percent.
In the Netherlands are 16 million people, and 0,1 percent of that is 16 000. So there would be 16 000 people reading these articles...
Quite a few...
the gang of 500, isn't a geographic gang. They're not 500 people. It's just a name given to 500 people who edit newspapers, who decide on how to write stories. They are 500 people who decide which good cause to fund, and which good person to endorse. They are elderly statesmen, and young hip television producers. They live in LA, Seattle, and yes, even Tucson.
But you are right, NL, is impossible. Having said that, we are european. And we actually have a much larger gang, all of them are well educated and speak english. I would say we have 27 gangs of 500. Well maybe not 27, but a good deal of influentials
Thanks for the explanation...
That's enough about investigative journalism for now...
Just keep reading the blog!
And, maybe more important: keep posting!
Bye..
Goh, ik had toch altijd het idee dat ik het wel redelijk volgde... Dat van de doodstraf, het homohuwelijk en het wapenbezit wist ik ook wel. Maar dan dat van die invasie in Irak... Ik heb de debatten gevolgd en daar ontkent hij glashard die OOIT te hebben gesteund, ik was blijkbaar zo naief om dat te geloven, maar hoe naief zijn Amerikanen als (waarschijnlijk beide) Presidentskandidaten zó duidelijk kunnen liegen?
Trouwens, over dat homohuwelijk is Obama voor een Amerikaan toch wel redelijk progressief. Tijdens het Evangelisch Debat zei hij ongeveer dit: 'Ik juich het niet toe, maar ik vind het wel belangrijk dat ook gay couples bepaalde rechten krijgen die aan het huwelijk verbonden zijn, zodat ze bijvoorbeeld elkaar kunnen opzoeken als één in het ziekenhuis verblijft. Mijn geloof, en mijn huwelijk worden er niet zwakker van als homo's die rechten krijgen!'
Maar in feite zal er bij de enquete gevraagd zijn: Is Obama voor of tegen het homohuwelijk. En dan is het antwoord inderdaad 'nee'.
Even ter verduidelijking over de steun van Obama aan de oorlog in Irak: van de ondervraagden had 46 procent het bij het juiste einde: hij was voorstander van ingrijpen. Obama zat toen overigens nog niet in de senaat.
Het is natuurlijk makkelijk voor Obama om dan te zeggen dat hij de troepen wil terugtrekken, omdat dat anti-Bush is en dus goed...
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